This is a multipart message in MIME format ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Obviously, he's using a pitch fork/aural, which is a good thing= for a beginning tuner. An ETD would have given him an exact= measurement of the general tuning of the piano. I feel and ETD= is a necessary piece of equipment in the tuners kit. Doug= could have quickly brought the piano up to pitch and then tuned= as best he can aurally. David I. ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Terry <terry@farrellpiano.com> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:49:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Help with "bad" tuning...need help Hi Doug, So please give us some details...... "It was not that out of tune, A440 sounded like it was between= g-sharp and a, but not an entire half/step off." Was that before you tuned it? Or after? How are you tuning -= aurally, ETD? Could you not measure pitch fairly precisely? Did= you do a separate pitch raise before tuning? What methodology= did you use? Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Renz Piano Tuning To: pianotech@ptg.org Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: Help with "bad" tuning...need help As a new piano tuner, I am learning a lot as I go and tune= different piano=92s and typically I am tuning the older piano=92s and some= new/better ones. This past Sat. I tuned a piano for a home that had a= console that had never been tuned =91in a long time=92. I warned them that I= might break strings and that it will go out of tune quickly because of= the condition of the strings and the piano itself. Well I was called back by the customer saying =91the piano is still out of tune and you must= not have checked it before you left=92. Before I left I told him,= =91your piano is most likely going to go flat somewhat because it has not been= tuned at all in such a long time (20+ yrs) and that it should tuned= every 6 months. The piano was old and recently had some action work, but the strings= looked old and dirty. I was careful not to break any strings and when I= left it sounded good and the funny thing was the customer said it sounded good= after I finished. It was not that out of tune, A440 sounded like it was between= g-sharp and a, but not an entire half/step off. So, what do I do now? Has anyone been in my shoes before? Go back= and do a =91free=92 fix it up tuning, or tell him, he has to pay for a= 2nd tuning. Is this going to risk my reputation? He had the action done by another= local PTG member and I am afraid that if I don=92t go back and =91fix=92 this, I am= going to get that reputation and the other PTG member might tell others about the= =91part time=92 tooner, which I do not want to be and this is why I joined the PTG, to= get better. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. I thought the tuning was good, inspite of the condition of the= piano and the strings. It sounded alot better, but I knew it was going to need another= tuning soon. Any advice, thoughts? Thanks. Doug Renz Associate PTG member, Rochester, NY ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/04/60/2e/0f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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