"should I stay or should I go?"

[David Ilvedson]

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You do the best you can in the situation.   I'm in total=
 agreement.   Another reason why I love my ETD.   I know, if I=
 have to, I can tune every string to the ETD and the piano will=
 sound pretty good.
David I.


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From: antares <antares@euronet.nl>
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:18:19 +0100
Subject: Re: "should I stay or should I go?"

On the other hand Dave Skolnik,

Most of the time we have no choice but to grin and ignore.
I used to get incredibly furious, swear at people, stamp my feet=
 or even walk away from the scene in terrible anger.
And you know what?
The years went by, and I am still tuning in the same conditions.
And you know what?
I don't care anymore.

I ignore
and 
I grin.

Andr=E9 Oorebeek


On 10-nov-04, at 22:32, David Skolnik wrote:


Quentin -

There is no one answer when you are talking about theater, which,=
 for these purposes, includes concerts.  Even if you are dealing=
 with a regular account, it can take a long time and a lot of=
 work, to train the people around you, or the people who create=
 the schedule, before the requirements for tuning become accepted=
 and anticipated.  And then, sometimes, sh_t happens.  A=
 rehearsal goes late, last minute stagecraft, etc.  The best=
 approach, I think, is to be  bit anal when making the original=
 arrangements.  Ask the scheduler if there is anything, as in =
 ANYTHING, else going on during the tuning time.  Sometimes the=
 scheduler and maintenance, or stage crew, don't communicate so=
 well.  It's worth double checking.  

It is true how amazing it is that people (especially musicians)=
 don't make the connection between tuning and the need for=
 silence, which includes shuffling papers, whispering, or=
 sometimes, breathing, but, on the other hand, why should they=
 know.  There are times when the only course is to ask someone to=
 desist,,,as politely as possible.  At other times, again,=
 preparing for performance, other people may have jobs that have=
 to get done.  Then it becomes a matter of determining what level=
 of noise is essential for them to fulfill their=
 responsibilities, and what part of the usual noise can, in this=
 case be reasonably suppressed.

Regarding the 2 or 3 people chatting vs. 15 making noise,=
 sometimes the few can be more annoying, to me.  A lot of the=
 time it depends upon the need.  The 15 may have no choice but to=
 carry on, to prepare for a show, while the 2 or 3 could probably=
 take the conversation somewhere else.  I will not hesitate to=
 enlighten someone for a few offenses:

Unnecessary conversation or laughter
Singing- especially the note I'm tuning
Whistling, ESPECIALLY THE NOTE I'M TUNING
Jingling keys on a key ring

No noise accepted for a recording session tuning.

Otherwise, it's Show Business.


David Skolnik



At 05:44 PM 11/10/2004 +0100, you wrote:

Hi Patrick,
 
This afternoon, I had to tune for a concert in a small hall.
I tuned the piano this morning, and had to check it another time=
 when it was installed.
People started installing the stage for the choir (nearly 50=
 singers I think) just after I began checking everything.
Some notes were a little bit out of tune, I had to tune them=
 correctly.
People were trailing the stage "blocks" everywhere and shouting=
 at each other because they should have finished work sooner and=
 people wanted to go back home.
I asked for silence, everything remained noisy all around me.
I decided to... go ;-)
 
If they totally didn't care about my concentration and about what=
 I was doing, that's because they 'd probably think the piano was=
 good as it was.
 

and...


But don't you think people should realize that making a good=
 tuning requires good conditions?
 
There is a difference between 2 or 3 people chatting and 15=
 persons screaming and moving chairs and wood panels all around=
 you while you're tuning !
 
I think I would have preferred 2 or 3 people discussing in a=
 normal way instead of this disturbing noises !
 
Quentin



friendly greetings
from
Andr=E9 Oorebeek

"where Music is, no harm can be"


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