This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment "Has *anyone* drawn up any guidelines as to the average service life of = a hammer or damper felt?" Again, car analogy, however, in this case we need to specify race car. = Your run-or-the-mill Chevy Impala (or just about any other car) is = utilitarian in nature. You need to change oil, fan belts, brakes, hoses, = alternators, batteries, etc. either to prevent failure, or after the = thing fails. On a race car, we change tires, shocks, pistons, valves, = transmissions not so much to prevent failure, but rather to achieve the = performance characteristics we are looking for. The piano that sits unused most of the year and only rings out a tune = when uncle Fred drops into town at Christmas and kicks out a Christmas = carol is a utilitarian piano, much like the Impala. However, many, if = not most, pianos are performance instruments - the players are trying to = play well - they are trying to improve. So, the life of a hammer or = damper is more based on whether it is meeting your performance needs, = rather that whether its life span is up. And that is going to vary = drastically from pianist to pianist. Maybe the best thing to do is have this piano owner play a good = performing new piano and then ask her how much she is really attached to = her original antique hammers. If she can't put two-and-two together, = then perhaps it doesn't matter. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sarah Fox=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Re: How do we tell customers that the work done on = theirpianosstinks? Hi Terry et al, Duh! I hadn't considered the antique car analogy. And yes, you = refine the argument well regarding hard parts vs. soft parts. I would = modify the argument to "wear-and-tear" parts and "non-wear-and-tear" = parts. Wear-and-tear parts are, by definition, intended to be replaced. = They are expendable, like tires, belts, and hoses in a car -- or = electric brushes in motors -- or needles on Victrolas -- or tubes in = radios -- or paint on an old, Victorian house. Without the "wear and = tear" parts being replaced as needed, the antique becomes nonfunctional = and therefore less valuable. Automobiles come with a manufacturer's recommended maintenance = schedule -- i.e. when to change belts, hoses, etc. How about pianos? = Has *anyone* drawn up any guidelines as to the average service life of a = hammer or damper felt? (If so, I'm sure it's less than 100 years. This = piano is 99 years old.) Anyway, my friend and I will be sending the piano off to said young = musician before too long. It will come with my minimal recommendation = for a set of Ray's hammers, dampers, several new bass strings, a DC = system, and CA'ing of several problem tuning pins. I also want to = recommend a technician in her area -- Los Angeles. (Sorry it's on the = other side of the country, Terry!!) I would do this work myself, except = that I refuse to touch the piano again, after she got her nose in the = air that the last tuning wasn't done by a *professional*. (I thought = the tuning was pretty good. The Suzuki violin teachers agreed, as it = was their favorite in-home piano for accompanying the children during = lessons and recitals. Ah well...) Anyway, who would y'all recommend in = the Los Angeles area for this piano? Peace, Sarah PS Sentimental value really *is* worth something with this piano. = It's the piano on which she learned (second instrument) and started = composing. She's bonded with it. It's a karma thing to her, which is = understandable. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Farrell=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 7:02 AM Subject: Re: How do we tell customers that the work done on = theirpianosstinks? I run into this quite often. I use the car analogy to describe how = pianos wear out. I also point out how pianos differ from antique cars = that are "all original". The reasons a restored 1962 Corvette with all = original parts and matching serial numbers is worth anything is because = there are not any cars made like them anymore and mostly because there = are many car clubs around where folks get together and show off their = cars, etc., etc. A 1902 or a 1962 or a 2002 Steinway or Bechstein or whatever = uprights or grands don't look a whole lot different from one another. = There are no piano clubs/magazines, etc. that attracts antique piano = collectors, etc. An antique piano has no intrinsic value. The only way = an "antique" piano has any value is usually if Harry Truman or Glenn = Gould owned it, or maybe if it is very unusual in some unique way. Then give them an appraisal of the wholesale value of their piano: = less than zero. Give them a retail value of their piano: zero to $500 = depending on cosmetics (does it have all the keytops) and whether all = the keys work. That usually does it. If they still don't believe you, then perhaps = they just need to hear the same thing from another qualified technician. Now you need to focus on these original parts - parts replacement. = The "all original" restored 1962 Corvette has all its original metal and = fiberglass parts (not even that actually - it could have a new = alternator, etc., etc. - just the original "type") but all the = SOFT/ORGANIC parts have been replaced with new. The seat covers and = radiator hoses and brake lines are all new - they were not made by = Chevrolet. The piano is the same way. The "hard parts", i.e. the parts = that don't wear out or deteriorate on their own can stay - the case, = plate, frame, keybed, etc. But the SOFT/ORGANIC parts that wear need to = be replaced if you want it to look/perform like new - hammers, action = parts, strings (not soft or organic, but you can replace with original = type), soundboard and whatever. Only for a museum restoration is there any reason to try and = preserve everything in its original state. But keep in mind that is done = for historical preservation only - not to make something work for = everyday use. If that doesn't work. Walk away - its hopeless! BTW, IMHO those old Knabes are among the finest, if not the finest, = uprights ever built - premium remanufacturing stock! Ya might even want = to tell her you know someone in the business....... ;-) Terry Farrell ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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