Jack Flanges

Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Sun Oct 26 18:08:46 MST 2008


Charge for your time. Parts are too cheap to itemize out (IMHO) - just round your time up.

Got an hourly labor fee? If not, a good place to start is your tuning fee divided by the time it typically takes to tune a piano.

Terry Farrell
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matthew Todd 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Jack Flanges


        Hello,

        I beg your endurance a final time on this subject.

        I will be returning the repaired whippens this coming week on my clients piano.  How does one typically charge for this repair?  It didn't take me long at all to fit the parts (no custom fit was necessary).  I will be doing a tuning at the same appointment. 

        As far as the markup for parts, the flanges themselves only cost me $0.29 each.  Then there's shipping, but I also ordered more supplies for myself as well.




        TODD PIANO WORKS 
        Matthew Todd, Piano Technician 
        (979) 248-9578
        http://www.toddpianoworks.com


        --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Michael Magness <IFixPianos at yahoo.com> wrote:

          From: Michael Magness <IFixPianos at yahoo.com>
          Subject: Re: Jack Flanges
          To: toddpianoworks at att.net, "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
          Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 2:25 PM





          On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Matthew Todd <toddpianoworks at att.net> wrote:

                  Yeah, I thought about the damper spoons after I sent the e-mail. Would A0 and A#0 work? 



                  TODD PIANO WORKS 
                  Matthew Todd, Piano Technician 
                  (979) 248-9578
                  http://www.toddpianoworks.com



                  --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Bruce Browning - The Piano Tuner <justpianos at our.net.au> wrote:

                    From: Bruce Browning - The Piano Tuner <justpianos at our.net.au> 

                    Subject: Re: Jack Flanges
                    To: toddpianoworks at att.net, "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>

                    Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 5:15 AM 



Matthew,The nwhippen has a notch for the flange to sit down in. Remove the oldflange with alcohol and then compare.B87 & C88 will not have damper spoons.Bruce BrowningThe Piano Tuner>I put it next to the original flange, and> you can see quite a difference.>> Help please.>> These> "broken keys" are in the center of the keyboard on my clientspiano, so> I will be stopping by next week and swapping the whippens from B87 and> C88, so at least the piano will be playable until I get this issue> resolved. 


          Hi Matt,

          I don't want to be unkind but you do tend to over think what should be a simple and straight forward repair. 
          As many others have said, the whippen flange, when fitted into the saddle/slot made for it, will probably fit more snugly, if not a good gap filling glue such as Titebond yellow glue will do the trick.

          For your further edification the action you are working on IS a compact action. Not in the traditional sense but it is not a full size action either, it's a copy of a Schwander action and smaller than a full size action but then most Schwander-type vertical actions, with some notable exceptions are, IMHO and experience. The Baldwin "stealth" vertical action being one. Samick used to make some full size ones in their 48" studios, I don't know if they still do or not.

          Mike

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          Michael Magness
          Magness Piano Service
          608-786-4404
          www.IFixPianos.com
          email mike at ifixpianos.com
       
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