[CAUT] Salary

[Carl Root]

Fred,

The home office acquired the raw data at my request.

I see the same potential that you do for a much closer examination of  
various subgroups, and also a correction of some problems that you've  
noted with Memberscope's breakdown of the responses to some of the  
questions.

I'll keep you posted.

Carl


On Mar 14, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Fred Sturm wrote:

> Hi Carl,
>     Is this something you anticipate doing – getting hold of the  
> raw data? And do you have the capability of doing the kind of cross- 
> reference data mining involved? There are lots and lots of  
> questions that come to mind in looking at that survey, all pretty  
> easily doable if the data is intact. For instance, besides the full  
> time caut salary question, other salary questions are hopelessly  
> smudged because everything is thrown into the same pile. So we  
> don’t even know what the gross income of full-time is versus part- 
> time. And trends in ETD use against years in PTG, ETD use of  
> associates versus RPT, type of training against income, frequency  
> of attendance at institutes and seminars versus income, things like  
> that would be very interesting to know.
>     Unfortunately, a couple questions got asked a little wrong,  
> especially the one having to do with percentage of time spent in  
> various occupations (or just maybe it is the form in which they are  
> reported – I don’t have a copy of the actual question asked). The  
> “less than 25%” category in particular is rather useless. What does  
> it mean? 0%? 10%? 20%? Those differences are enormous, and very  
> significant. I’d sure like to know where that 90% who reported  
> “less than 25%” for “Institution of Higher Education” broke down. I  
> suspect that at least 25% of that group is “greater than zero” but  
> the data leaves it as simply anyone’s guess. The question on the  
> draft survey had those percentages as open-ended (fill in the  
> blank). I suspect the survey firm decided to streamline and make it  
> easier to do input. A shame. That was one item I was really hoping  
> to get good data on (I lobbied hard on including that question).
> Regards,
> Fred Sturm
> University of New Mexico
>
>
> On 3/14/07 1:37 PM, "Carl Root" <carldroot at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I suspect the information that you want is available in the 2006  
>> PTG survey but I don't believe it was reported as such in either  
>> the published report or the extended version.  If and when I get a  
>> hold of the raw data, I will try to extract the income figures  
>> from CAUTs who indicated that they are employed in a full time  
>> position.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Avery Todd wrote:
>>
>>> Wim,
>>>
>>>  I knew there was a newer one but I'd forgotten it wasn't CAUT  
>>> that did it.
>>>  I'll check it out.
>>>
>>>  But isn't that salary for those who are self-employed? Or is it  
>>> a combination
>>>  of that AND university techs.
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>
>>>  Avery
>>>
>>>  At 12:00 PM 3/14/2007, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Avery
>>>>
>>>>  The PTG Conducted a survey last year. You can review it  
>>>> yourself, by
>>>>  going to the PTG web site. (www.ptg.org <http://www.ptg.org/ 
>>>> > ), and clicking on Resources,
>>>>  and then 2006 survey. You will need your member id and a  
>>>> password. (If
>>>>  you don't remember them, contact Sandy at the home office).
>>>>
>>>>  The Survey has all sorts of information, including income. The  
>>>> direct
>>>>  answer to your question, "The average gross receipts from piano
>>>>  related activities during the past year was $51,289."
>>>>
>>>>  Wim
>>>>
>>>>  Quoting Avery Todd <atodd at uh.edu>:
>>>>
>>>>  > List,
>>>>  >
>>>>  > I just looked at the CAUT page with the survey results on it  
>>>> and it
>>>>  > was dated 2002. It said the app. salary of respondents was  
>>>> $39, 733.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Wasn't there some kind of full-time salary type survey done more
>>>>  > recently? As you know, I'm retiring soon and I'm trying to  
>>>> get them
>>>>  > to upgrade the salary here. Actually, the Director is trying to.
>>>>  > Whether he'll be able to get approval or not is a different  
>>>> subject.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Thanks.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Avery Todd
>>>>  > University of Houston
>>>>  >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Willem Blees, RPT
>>>>  Piano Tuner/Technician
>>>>  School of Music
>>>>  University of Alabama
>>>>  Tuscaloosa, AL USA
>>>>  205-348-1469
>>>
>>
>>
>

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