This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment OK, here's what I was saying. Having all three criteria is quite = possible, provided that you are working on an action which well = engineered, and in good repair. If not, then at least the attempt should = be made. You have choices to be made of course, such as; is it warranted = to replace some parts that you deemed good enough before? =20 If everything has been regulated as well as can be done, the one = place I would probably fudge would be key dip. Not much either, just = enough to get the aftertouch the correct feel. I like an even hammer = line, and I like an even key dip, and if the aftertouch feels even, I = don't think the pianist is going to notice one key dip being .003 deeper = than the other. ( Unless he's checking with a dip block!) =20 I usually can achieve this result. But there are pianos out there = that just aren't going to give it to you.=20 My response on this thread was originally to say that we really = shouldn't be satisfied with just two of the three criteria met. We = should always strive to have all three, and if you can't achieve it then = find out why not. By decent action, I was referring to one in which the = capstan line and balance rail holes etc. are all in an even line.=20 Oh, and by the way,I never assume anything, especially something as = important as aftertouch. Kevin E. Ramsey ramsey@extremezone.com=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Ballard=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:10 AM Subject: Re: Steinway regulation Kevin E. Ramsey <ramsey@extremezone.com> wrote: No, how about uniform dip, uniform aftertouch, and an even hammer = line? If you can't achieve that, then go back and start over. As in the = beginning, this time doing those repairs you should have done? I'm not trying = to be smart, or mad, or anything, but seriously..... on a decent action, = you CAN have it all. When all else fails, follow the directions,,,,,,, or = learn them. You must not be specifically setting in aftertouch in increments of 1 = mil punchings, more likely setting in a uniform dip and blow AND = assuming that "a decent action" will obligingly provide uniform = aftertouch. What extent of repairs are you willing to perform along the = way towards an action decent enough to oblige? And to what tolerances? = Knuckle bolstering is certainly on the list. Re-hanging knuckles where = the molding is not square to the shank or *some* specified distance from = the hammer center? How 'bout the same for the capstans or the balance = rail pins? And does uniform blow include measuring each note from the = strings, not just the section ends? If your tolerances were exacting, = would the action honor them with with a uniform aftertouch. I'm with Mike and Bob. It's the same 2 out of 3 that we face everyday = in tuning. Regardless of theoretical calculations, no piano will give us = clean octaves AND smooth thirds AND smooth fifths. I've said before in = an earlier thread on this subject that given a uniform blow, and a = disagreement between dip and aftertouch of 5 mils, the pianist will = definitely notice the 5 mil error left in a 50 mill aftertouch much = faster than that same error left in a .390" dip.=20 On the other hand,,, I just had this nightmare Brambach that I was handed the other day. Maybe in the next few days I'll get the = strength back to write about it without shuddering. Have fun with it. But the issue in this thread can be demonstrated = with any action. > BobDavis88@AOL.COM wrote: > > > This brings up an interesting question anyway, whether to insist = on uniform > > DIP or uniform AFTERTOUCH. > > How about insisting on both even dip and even aftertouch? Crooked = hamme line > tolerated first, (within reason) > > Just an initial gut reaction, > > -Mike Jorgensen ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/d6/c8/c7/69/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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