Dont know what to say

[Carl Meyer]

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Since I was the one to originate the suggestion that citizens should be =
armed I think it is appropriate that I respond to you.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Wimblees@aol.com=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:38 AM
  Subject: Re: Dont know what to say


  In a message dated 9/12/01 9:28:45 PM Central Daylight Time,=20
  ramsey@extremezone.com writes:=20



    I agree with Carl. I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, and =
I'm=20
    still not allowed to carry one on an airline. I'm a very analytical =
person,=20
    and have had extensive training in the judicious use of deadly =
force. (Hey,=20
    everyone needs a hobby, right? Well, that used to be one of mine.) I =
used to=20
    have a low level Reserve Sheriff qualification in California. I have =
fifteen=20
    years of extensive combat training in small arms.=20
       If I would have been on a plane-load with five or six terrorists =
armed=20
    with knives, that plane would never have crashed. I would have =
simply told=20
    the pilot to get behind me and be ready to take the controls of the =
plane=20
    after it was clear, and after we had dragged the body from the seat. =

       That's just the way it would have been, period.=20



  Kevin=20
  May God have mercy on your soul.=20

  You talk the big talk. But I doubt very seriously if you have been =
able to do=20
  what you claim. The circumstances on Tuesay might have been prevented =
if some=20
  gun toting person would have been on board. But before that, many =
planes=20
  would have had to make emergency landings, and probably crashed, if =
ordinary=20
  citizens, who had a right to carry a gun, were on board planes.

  This is speculative on your part. =20

   A single=20
  bullet in the wrong place can bring down a plane full of people.

  Yes, and a single bullet in the right place can save not only the =
plane but thousands of others.


   Airline=20
  personnel have had hard enough time controlling passengers who didn't =
like=20
  the fact that their plane was arriving 10 minnets late. I can imagine =
some of=20
  them pulling a gun to get the pilot to fly faster.=20

  Again your imagination is running wild.  You assume nobody else is =
armed.  I can't imagine anyone dumb enough to pull a gun
  when he knows there are a dozen or more cooler heads behind him that =
will fill his hip pockets so full of lead he can't stand up to support =
the weight.


  A sky marshal is one thing. But to allow any one else with a gun on a =
plane=20
  is a disaster waiting to happen.=20

  This hasn't been tried so it too is speculation.  Having plane loads =
of citizens that are KNOWN to be unarmed is not a disaster waiting to =
happen.  Not any more!!!  It just happened.  No speculation there.
  Governments fear an armed citizenry, ours included. I suspect the =
applied solution will be more of the same that doesn't work.
  Freedom will be the victim.

  I'm always amazed that some will accept a huge risk, yet refuse a =
small risk to protect some favorite idea that somehow the constitution =
is outdated or plain wrong.

  To those who are open minded, read "The seven myths of gun control"  =
by Richard Poe.  You'll find that some of the frontier towns had high =
murder rates, almost as high as New York and Washington DC.  Robbery, =
rape, theft or mugging tho were almost non-existant.  Women and children =
were safe living next to the bordellos, saloons and gambling halls.  =
That was because the young hotheads who shot it out in the streets knew =
that if they bothered any innocent citizen they would be dead meat =
before they hit the ground.  Almost  everybody was armed.  In spite of =
Hollywood, that was a relatively peaceful era.

  Oh! and yes, I think I'd like Kevin to sit next to me on the plane.



  Carl Meyer  Assoc. PTG
  Santa Clara, California
  cmpiano@home.com =20




  Wim=20



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