newbie questions

[alan forsyth]

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Too late, I'm already asleep ....zzzzzzzz

AF

 PS Consider the following;

"it would seem to me that there would be opportunity for higher partials =
to be all over the place "

That is the very reason why you should listen to them so that you CAN =
put them in their place. They are very audible in the lower tenor and =
bearing scale.

"with the inharmonicity differences in wire. I.e., a plain wire and =
wound wire. "

Would this not be the very reason that manufacturers prefer the scale =
design of low tension in the lower tenor to that of equalizing breaking =
strain  as in Yamaha GH1?

"I still don't see how you use that beat speed to put the wire being =
tuned into your tuning pattern. "

The second partial intersection of the 5ths would fall in to the same =
region on the keyboard as the first partial intersection of the other =
main intervals ; 3rds, 4ths and 6ths.
In a C to C octave the lower 5th interval C to G will be the same beat =
rate as the higher 4th interval G to C.

Once again

AF
Not running for office, but for cover!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Joseph Alkana=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:45 AM
  Subject: Re: newbie questions


  AF,
  Considering the spread of a fifth, it would seem to me that there =
would be opportunity for higher partials to be all over the place with =
the inharmonicity differences in wire. I.e., a plain wire and wound =
wire. By my ears, the beats of the higher partials are no where near =
double sometimes, but I haven't really got into it yet. I still don't =
see how you use that beat speed to put the wire being tuned into your =
tuning pattern. More info, please.

  Joseph Alkana RPT
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: alan forsyth=20
    To: Pianotech=20
    Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:40 PM
    Subject: Re: newbie questions


    The beats are twice the speed so you can make a much more accurate =
judgment as to the correctness of your interval.

    AF
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Joseph Alkana=20
      To: Pianotech=20
      Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:25 PM
      Subject: Re: newbie questions


      AF,
      And just exactly what would you discern from hearing the second, =
or higher coincident partials? How would you make use of the information =
at that point?

      Just curious.
      Joseph Alkana RPT
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: alan forsyth=20
        To: Pianotech=20
        Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:57 PM
        Subject: newbie questions


        From Alan Barnyard's post: "5ths have such a slow beat that they =
are hard for most to tune accurately, as a primary interval"

        It's much easier to use 5ths by listening to the second =
intersection of partials and not the first. However you will have to =
sensitize your hearing to discern that point.

        AF
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