Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a piano outtuned becuse of humidity

[Philippe Errembault]

can I suggest the word "approximately" as an answers to your question ? :-D
Since I'm a newbie, I'm probably not yet as selective in the result as any of you 

I wonder if, from an ethic point of view, we can call "savage beast" a birdcage upright (because of the cage) ;-)

Now, I don't feel it is as bad as you describe. I don't know if there are various qualities of wooden frame, but I just started by giving a quarter of turn on each string, one row of at a time, an then started tuning...

Now that's true, it moves quite quickly. thats precisely why I decided to learn tuning :-)

Philippe Errembault
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: alan forsyth 
  To: Pianotech List 
  Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 7:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a piano outtuned becuseofhumidity


  I'm curious as to how you go about pitch raising a wooden frame piano? I've done several before and each time it makes a mockery of my sensibilities. They do not follow the normal rules of pitch changes. Some of them you can tune in 5 passes and at the end of all that , A49 ends up at the same pitch that you started out with. I have about 25 of these savage beasts on my records. Some of them are as follows;

  Hartman 1860
  Collard & Collard 1860
  Erard 1847
  B Squire 1859
  A Bord 1891
  John Broadwood 1893
  Erard 1830
  Challen 1885
  James MacBeth 1870
  Murdoch McKillop 1885
  Hopkinson s/n 12 1835
  B Squire 1870
  Challen & Hodgson 1875
  John Broadwood 1869
  William Ross  1860
  Henry Ward 1861

  What is interesting is that some were still being produced way after the invention of the full iron frame. I know that in previous centuries, nuns in the Convents were taught to tune their own pianos mainly because these old wooden framed efforts (the pianos, not the nuns) needed tuning every day.

  AF
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Philippe Errembault 
    To: Pianotech List 
    Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:57 PM
    Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a piano outtuned becuse ofhumidity


    Well, because I use it !!!

    but with the wooden frame, it moves quite much with humidity variations. 

    the point is the Damp-chaser is probably much more expensive than the value of the piano...
    Now, if I ever have to change the piano, maybe I could move the damp-chaser to the new one !?!

    Philippe Errembault
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Stéphane Collin 
      To: Pianotech List 
      Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:37 PM
      Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a pianoouttunedbecuseofhumidity


      Hi Philippe.

      If the piano is not worth preserving it, why would you preserve it ?

      Stéphane Collin.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Philippe Errembault 
        To: Pianotech List 
        Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:32 AM
        Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a piano outtunedbecuseofhumidity


        I thought about this, don't you think this is quite expensive in regard of the value of the piano ?

        Philippe Errembault
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Stéphane Collin 
          To: Pianotech List 
          Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:05 AM
          Subject: Re: Is it a good idea to tuned on itself a piano outtuned becuseofhumidity


          Buy a Damp-chaser (is is two m or two p or two hyphens ?)

          Stéphane Collin.
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