Paid for Pitch Raises?

[Avery]

At 01:23 PM 2/12/2007, you wrote:
>I don´t agree. In my (former) life as aural 
>tuner it took me 1.5 to 2 hours to tune a piano. 
>If a pitch raise has to be done, it takes 2 
>passes and still takes 1,5 to 2 hours. Of 
>course, the result will be not so fine so that 
>the piano has to be retuned after a few weeks (I 
>talk about heavy PR of 25 cents and more). Of 
>course the retuning is paid again.
>
>Now, in my new life as ETD tuner, things 
>changed: I tune nearly every piano in 2 passes. 
>The reason is: the ETD gives absolute pitch, 
>aural tunings do not. If I raise 5 cents, that 
>string becomes lower during tuning. But as aural 
>tuner I react to that, so that the octave may be 
>perfect, but a little bit lower than absolute 
>pitch. The result is a piano which might be 2 
>cents flat, but that´s the reason why I come 
>back in a few weeks. And: who cares about 2 cents if it´s NOT a concert tuning.
>
>When the strategy is to tune every piano twice 
>if pitch is 2 to 5 cents flat, then one should not charge for the 2 passes.

Why?

>  And: I always charge an allowance, and here in 
> my hometown every tech does it. I can´t tell 
> the customer: the price depends on how long I 
> tune. If I did so, all the customers would call 
> the other techs with a flat rate.

That's not the point. It depends on how stable 
you want the instrument. Of course, we're 
probably talking about concert situations here!

Avery


>Gregor
>
>
>>From: David Andersen <david at davidandersenpianos.com>
>>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>Subject: Re: Paid for Pitch Raises?
>>Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:12:17 -0800
>>
>>Daniel---please don't take this personally, 
>>brother, but you've  triggered off a rant.
>>What the HELL are you people doing----working 
>>without getting paid?  That's insane.
>>You really need to check your approach to life, 
>>IMO, if you submit to  this kind of bullshit.
>>Raising the pitch on a piano takes 
>>WORK---intense work, between 20  and 40 
>>minutes, if done right. To not get paid for 
>>that, or to work  for people who don't intend 
>>to pay you for that, is dysfunctional.  Period. 
>>What are you thinking about? Would you ever ask 
>>any other  kind of service tech to come to your 
>>house or business and work for  20-40 minutes FOR FREE?
>>Never. NEVER.
>>
>>Wake up. WAKE UP. You need to start valuing 
>>your time, your life, and  your skills.
>>Stand up for yourself, and tell that a**h**le 
>>who owns that  store to  sell you a piano for his cost.
>>See what he says. Wake up.
>>
>>Until we demand respect and acknowledgement for 
>>our immense knowledge  and skillset we'll be 
>>treated like field hands, or 
>>dismissable  underlings, or naive idiots, or pathetic losers.
>>
>>There. I feel better now.
>>
>>David Andersen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Feb 11, 2007, at 8:21 PM, daniel carlton wrote:
>>
>>>The owner of one of the stores explained that 
>>>they don't want to  have to spend more money 
>>>than they have to on the used pianos 
>>>in  particular if they can only sell it for so 
>>>much. I guess I do see  the logic in that, but 
>>>what about all the pitch corrections I 
>>>have  to do on the new pianos? I don't get anything for my time.
>
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